Jeff King: The Lockdown is Lawful

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020 (Reg 6) and the Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (Wales) Regulations 2020 (Reg 8) both provide in identical wording that  ‘During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.’ Both also enumerate thirteen exceptions (‘reasonable excuses’) to the rule.  These are the restrictions widely referred to as the ‘lockdown.’  There is a question at the moment about whether they are so invasive as to be unlawful.  This two-part post briefly reviews the legal basis for the confinement. I argue that the lockdown is lawful.

The Statutory Framework

The recently adopted Coronavirus Act 2020 does not confer new powers on UK and Welsh ministers to impose a lockdown on the people of England and Wales. It does confer such powers on Northern Ireland (specifically, the Northern Ireland Department of Health) in Schedule 18; and on Scottish ministers in Schedule 19.  Neither Northern Ireland nor Scotland had them previously.  The scheme in those two schedules is roughly – and in the case of Northern Ireland almost verbatim – based on the powers accorded to UK and Welsh ministers under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984.    It is there that the source of the powers both now and into the future are to be located in respect of any lockdown.  If the present lockdown is found to be outwith the 1984 Act, it would follow that no lockdown is presently permissible anywhere in the country.

The 1984 Act may seem a bit old as a framework of powers for dealing with a pandemic like Covid-19. But, in fact, the relevant part of the 1984 Act (Part 2A) was inserted by Part III of the Health and Social Care Act 2008.  That later Act was designed with epidemics in mind, as it was a response to the SARS epidemic of 2003. It does two main things. First, it empowers the Secretary of State to make regulations to respond to the protection of health in response to the spread of infectious disease (ss. 45B-45F).  Second, it provides a framework for the exercise of powers by Justices of the Peace to make health protection orders against particular individuals or groups of individuals (ss.45G-O). Essentially, when the Government wants to make a broader set of rules and regulations applying to all or some significant part of the population it uses the powers under ss.45B and following; and when some public authority wants to impose restrictions on a specific person or group of persons it applies to a Justice of the Peace under ss.45G and following.

The Lockdown Provisions

In the lockdown regulations cited in the introduction above, the Government has clarified that it is acting under section 45C of the 1984 Act.   I will reproduce some of the relevant provisions that are on point (with emphasis added in some places):

  • s.45C(1): ‘The appropriate Minister may by regulations make provision for the purpose of preventing, protecting against, controlling or providing a public health response to the incidence or spread of infection or contamination in England and Wales (whether from risks originating there or elsewhere).’
  • s.45C(2): ‘The power in subsection (1) may be exercised—

(a) in relation to infection or contamination generally or in relation to particular forms of infection or contamination, and

(b) so as to make provision of a general nature, to make contingent provision or to make specific provision in response to a particular set of circumstances.’

  • s.45C(3)(c): ‘Regulations under subsection (1) may in particular include provision… imposing or enabling the imposition of restrictions or requirements on or in relation to persons, things or premises in the event of, or in response to, a threat to public health.’
  • s.45C(4)(d): ‘The restrictions or requirements mentioned in subsection (3)(c) include in particular…a special restriction or requirement.’

The regulations also specify on their face that they are imposing a special restriction or requirement under s.45C(4)(d).  So, what are those, exactly? 

The 1984 Act is somewhat intricate here.  They are to be defined for the purposes of section 45C(4)(d) by reference to those things that Justices of the Peace are empowered to deal with in respect of persons, things and premises in sections 45G-O (see section 45C(6)(a) – subject to certain exceptions which I come to further below).    Under those provisions, if a constable or public health officer wanted to act against an individual or group of persons that were at risk of spreading infectious disease, s/he would apply to a Justice of the Peace to issue an order in respect of those persons.  Any such order would be appealable to the Magistrates’ Court.  The powers in section 45C, by contrast, are for the Secretary of State to deal with more significant public health threats for which individual applications are manifestly ill-suited, presumably by reason of the numbers at issue.  So the answer to what a ‘special restriction or requirement’ is, is provided by section 45C(6)(a). 

We don’t need to get any further lost in the weeds here. It is unfortunate that while the regulations themselves do not specify precisely which ‘special restriction’ provision they are using.  In my view the most relevant provision granting powers to impose a ‘special restriction or requirement’ is

  • s. 45G(2)(j): ‘The order may impose on or in relation to [a person] one or more of the following restrictions or requirements— […]that [a person] be subject to restrictions on where [a person] goes or with whom [a person] has contact.’ 
  • s. 45J confirms explicitly that ‘a person’ also includes ‘groups of persons.’

All told, it seems reasonably clear to me that the words of the 1984 Act can be construed literally to confer powers to impose the lockdown.  Section 45C empowers to act in response to ‘infection or contamination generally,’ that it is to ‘make provision generally’ and the restrictions against persons relating to movement and gathering is provided for explicitly.  Moreover, the entire point of the regulation making powers is to enable the Government to respond to problems for which individual applications to Justices of the Peace are unsuited. 

More than (general) words can say?

But should the literal words be read down?  The common law’s love of liberty has often and rightly suggested doing so.  As the noted jurist and peer, Lord Anderson, has put the challenge on his blog, ‘[f]or such a remarkable limitation of personal freedom to be contemplated by statute, one would have expected to find clear words in section 45G(2): something like “that P be required not to leave the place where P is living, save for specified purposes.”  That might seem apiece with the idea behind the principle of legality and many other public law cases which are apt to deny that general rather than specific words can permit serious infringements of personal liberty.  Relatedly, was it the gist of the Act to deal with something much more limited than a health scare that precipitates a nation-wide lockdown?

In my view, both these questions can be answered by considering the purpose of the 2008 amendments of the 1984 Act.  While Pepper v Hart [1992] UKHL 3 often makes judges cringe these days, there’s no reason for legal scholars or the public to be indifferent to what those presenting and pushing the Health and Social Care Bill have had to say about it.  At his second reading speech of the Health and Social Care Bill (Lord Darzi of Denham) (HL Debates, Vol. 700, Col. 452 (28 March 2008)), the general point of the 2008 amendments was clarified:

In relation to Part 3 of the Bill, the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 consolidates earlier legislation, much of it dating from the 19th century. Not surprisingly, many of its assumptions, both about risks and about how society operates, are now out of date. It provides for only a limited range of actions when other measures could be more effective in terms of protecting public health, and more convenient and less intrusive for those concerned. […]

[T]he new legislation contained in Part 3 will provide for a comprehensive set of public health measures to help prevent and control the spread of disease caused by infection or contamination which present, or could present, significant harm to human health. This will enable a quick response to new or unknown diseases or threats, such as the ones we have seen in recent times, for example SARS or Polonium 210. Some of the measures proposed could impact on an individual’s human rights. That is why we have provided significant safeguards in the legislation to protect individuals. Human rights require a balance to be struck between the freedom of the individual and the health and safety of other people; we are confident that we have struck the right balance.​

The statement doesn’t settle the interpretive issue (precisely why judges often cringe).  But the idea that the 2008 Act provides an updated framework for dealing with ‘new or unknown diseases’ such as SARS is directly on point, as is the recognition that this could lead to incursions into individual liberties. It is in the very nature of new or unknown pandemic diseases that makes complete parliamentary foresight almost impossible to achieve, and a reaction time to them needs to be rapid in order to avert disaster. The fact that the WHO has strenuously advised social distancing, and that internationally speaking, lockdowns have been regarded by a critical mass of Governments and public health experts alike as the only way to make effective that recommendation, also suggests that it is a reasonable interpretation of the Part 2A powers under the 1984 Act.  If so much of the world could come quickly to the view that a lockdown was the only, inevitable and indeed proportionate response to this ‘new or unknown disease or threat,’ it is not unreasonable to read a SARS-responsive piece of legislation as catering for that kind of situation. That was presumably the Government’s position when it did nothing to amend the Coronavirus Bill to confer explicit lockdown powers during the three days of legislative scrutiny that followed its announcement of the lockdown on Sunday, 22 March 2020.

Jeff King is a Professor of Law, University College London and a Legal Adviser to the House of Lords Constitution Committee. 

The opinion in is written in a purely personal capacity. The author thanks Alison Young and Daniel Greenberg for comments (and offers his apologies for omitting a careful discussion of the Civil Contingencies Act 2004).  Part II will address whether the lockdown may be regarded as a quarantine and whether it is a proportionate response and is compatible with human rights.

(Suggested citation: J King, ‘The Lockdown is Lawful’ UK Constitutional Law Blog U.K. Const. L. Blog (1 April 2020) (available at: https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/))


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28 responses to “Jeff King: The Lockdown is Lawful”

  1. Sam Avatar
    Sam

    It is totally UnLawful because it violates the Constitution specifically Article 9 Bill of Rights 1688 which they have tried to hide.

    That states: Parliament can do nothing that prejudices the Rights of the people.

    Its that simple.

    Remember in this country we are governed and policed by consent and we have the Right acknowledged by the Constitution to withdraw that consent at any time. The whole oath system is based on this the Queen took that oath in 1953 in which she swore to God she would uphold the Laws of this kingdom. Everyone holding public office swears on oath to protect the Queen and Monarchy and this all works through proxy via Her Majesty.

    The draconian legislation passed by the Johnson government are not Laws they are laws i.e. rules and regulations which need consent, any coercion whether that be mental or physical means we are living under tyranny.

    1. Horseman Avatar
      Horseman

      Quite right !

  2. Michael Freeman Avatar
    Michael Freeman

    ” …UK and Welsh ministers…”: a hitherto unknown dichotomy?

  3. wobbly Avatar
    wobbly

    Status of COVID-19
    As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

    The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

    The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.

    The need to have a national, coordinated response remains, but this is being met by the government’s COVID-19 response.

    Cases of COVID-19 are no longer managed by HCID treatment centres only. All healthcare workers managing possible and confirmed cases should follow the updated national infection and prevention (IPC) guidance for COVID-19, which supersedes all previous IPC guidance for COVID-19. This guidance includes instructions about different personal protective equipment (PPE) ensembles that are appropriate for different clinical scenarios.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

    (they had to classify it as HCID to get the lockdown) then while lockdown was in plae they put new legislation in, then they downgraded the severity of the disease

    this is anarchotyranny

    1. R Avatar
      R

      You misunderstand what an HCID is. A disease is classified as HCID if it is exceptionally lethal in the average person, but it does not mean the disease poses a threat of pandemic and high death rate. Almost all the pathogens listed on the HICD list have exceptionally low infectivity – take Ebola for example. Very lethal, but not hugely contagious. Very likely to die if you get it (HCID), but unlikely to get it. Covid was listed as HCID as a precautionary measure only. The necessity for quarantine measures is not at all based on a virus being designated as HCID, as these dont spread by nature of their mechanism. The dangerous viruses are those with low/medium death rates (1-3%) which are exceptionally infectious, the ‘sweet spot’ leading to most death.

      Now you can argue Covid still doesnt warrant lockdown, that’s a perfectly defendable discussion to have. But to use HCID classification as the arguement is wrong, and shows a lack of understanding of what the term means.

      1. whitenightf3 Avatar

        The lockdown is unLawful it violates English Constitutional Law which is our highest Law. Parliament is provably not Sovereign and it is not Supreme either.

    2. World of Piano Avatar

      The 1984 act should never have been passed. It is an enabler of totalitarianism. It should be repealed if we ever get a government and a parliament of decent men and women in place of the present arrogant, dictatorial, smug, self-serving incumbents (with a few honourable exceptions who have protested)

  4. Richard Evans Avatar
    Richard Evans

    There are too many fallacies here – Just taking one you are assuming SARS and Covid-19 are in someway different and more dangerous than previous epidemics with no evidence of that or taking into account the improved medical treatments to UK citizens today compared to even 50 years ago, and the general conditions of housing and welfare. Was the Polonium attack more dangerous than the IRA bombings in the 1970s and 80s, or the bombing in the second world war? No, no one can seriously claim that. In fact I would say that there are serious questions about there even being an “emergency period” given there is no “emergency” in any sense of the English language, other than one created by the govt.

    And that’s where Common Law should step in, there is a balance of risks in all things and it is clear now that the risk of suspending people’s Human Rights – Something I would argue should never be allowed – is greater than the risk of returning to normal.

    As for “s. 45G(2)(j): ‘The order may impose on or in relation to [a person]…” I note that it is “a person” or “groups of persons” to think that this law was intended to apply to ALL persons does not follow. You may want to prevent Chelsea fans entering a Tottenham pub before a big football match, but you should not be able to prevent anyone entering that pub and tell the owner to stop trading until further notice.

  5. Ian Hutchison Avatar
    Ian Hutchison

    2020 Regs : “a reasonable excuse includes the need….” & 13 exceptions are listed – food, health etc. The Regs do NOT say these are the ONLY reasonable excuses. A court may think a game of golf, for example – exercise & easy to distance from others – reasonable.

    1. Garrie Steels Avatar
      Garrie Steels

      Ah, the ‘Social Distancing’ policy and the heavy-handed approach of the Police to enforcing these recommendations from a Bill that is not even legislation, and as we all know, legislation is not – and never will be – Law. The author, in complete bemusement of the compliance and obedience of the UK people he then posed this question:

      Isn’t it useless to legislate for social distancing when we distance ourselves every day from people we do not know? How many can truly say that when they go shopping or walk down the street, see someone in the way or coming toward them and they do not move out of the way and give that person space to go passed? This is something called a Zone of Proximity, and – psychologically speaking – we do this all the time. So what use is there in legislating for something we do naturally? Zone of Proximity has 3 predefined distances that we are comfortable having another human in our zone of proximity. The 3 zones are:

      1. Intimate Zone = 45 – 50cm
      2. Friend Zone = 1.2 metres
      3. Social Zone = 3 – 3.6 metres

      Hence, if human’s distance themselves everyday anyway, THEN WHY LEGISLATE FOR IT? And yet again, another example of the absurdity of the lockdown.

  6. Garrie Steels Avatar
    Garrie Steels

    Jeff King is wrong. He has failed to mention that the Parent Act i.e. Public Health (Control of Disease Act 1984 states very clearly in the case of lockdown/quarantine due to an epidemic/pandemic then international travel is to be prohibited and/or flights returning form international destinations will be subject to aforementioned procedures and regulation:

    Health protection regulations: international travel etc.

    Regulations for control of certain diseases.

    [F19(1)

    (1)The appropriate Minister may by regulations make provision—

    (a)for preventing danger to public health from vessels, aircraft, trains or other conveyances ARRIVING at any place,

    Follow these links to see they have and still are arriving)

    Flights in to the UK from hotspots and summaries

    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-including-flights-in-to-the-uk-08-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-09-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summay-update-10-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronvirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-11-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-12-03-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-13-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-14-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-15-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-16-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-17-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-19-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-20-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-21-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-22-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-24-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-25-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-26-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-27-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronvirus-summary-update-28-04-2020
    https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@garytyme/coronavirus-summary-update-29-04-2020

    (b)for preventing the spread of infection or contamination by means of any vessel, aircraft, train or other conveyance LEAVING any place, and

    (c)for giving effect to any international agreement or arrangement relating to the spread of infection or contamination.

    (2)Regulations under subsection (1) may in particular include provision—

    (a)for the detention of conveyances,

    (b)for the medical examination, detention, isolation or quarantine of persons,

    (c)for the inspection, analysis, retention, isolation, quarantine or destruction of things,

    Now where does it state that the UK residents shold be subject to lockdown/quarantine due to an epidemic/pandemic if the country of virus origin is not the country you are resident of.

    Furthermore, the Coronavirus Act 2020 and the Health Protection (Coronavirus) Act 2020 were not only legislated Ultra Vires (Beyond the Powers) because it was passed in the house whilst dissolved i.e. in Fiat, but also as it is subordinate legislation it is recommendation document and not law, which has been enforced as law.

    Ultra Vires is an act by a public authority, company, or other body that goes beyond limits of the powers conferred on it. Ultra vires acts are invalid (like the Coronavirus Act 2020). The ultra vires doctrine applies to all powers, whether created by statute or by a private document or agreement (such as a trust deed or contract of agency). In the field of public (especially administrative) law it governs the validity of all delegated and sub delegated legislation. In simple terms all what it says is that public authority cannot act outside its powers and if it does so the act would be treated as null and void in law.

    But, as the UK Government manipulated the collective ministerial responsibility to pass the subordinate legislation (that also illegally got Royal Assent in March 2020) I.e. Collective Ministerial Responsibility requires each minister to support each Government decision. All members of the Government are bound by the convention of collective responsibility, except “where it is explicitly set aside”. The formal suspension of Collective Ministerial Responsibility on an issue does not happen often and is usually referred to as an ‘agreement to differ’, they can be seen to have violted the Bill of Rights, Humans Rights and the UN Convention. The Goverment is also guilty of Malfeasance in office, or official misconduct. This being the commission of an unlawful act: Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020/ Coronavirus Act 2020, done in an official capacity, that affects the performance of official duties. Malfeasance in office is often grounds for a JUST CAUSE REMOVAL of an elected official by statute or RECALL ELECTION i.e. because they legislated Ultra Vires – Unlawful legislation. Malfeasance in office contrasts with “misfeasance in office”, which is the commission of a lawful act, done in an official capacity, that improperly causes harm (Suicide rate increase and large scale depression/anxiety); and “nonfeasance in office,” which is the failure to perform an official duty (which the UK Goverment did not do by not enacting the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 and not stopping international flights from hotspots)) . This is ultra vires not only made provisions not authorized by the enabling power but alsoit did not comply with any procedural requirements regulating the exercise of the power i.e. Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984.

    Therefore, the government is a mere agency established by the people for the exercise of TRUST powers which reside in them. The powers of government are not, in STRICTNESS, granted, but DELEGATED powers. They are then TRUST POWERS AND CAN BE REVOKED. It results that no portion of sovereignty resides in government. The sovereign or supreme power in every country RESIDES WITH THE PEOPLE. Moreover, jura summi imperii, or the RIGHT OF SOVEREIGNTY, to reside in those hands in which the exercise of the power of making laws is placed.

    So, the Coronavirus Act 2020 was legislated Ultra Vires (i.e. Beyond the Powers; precendent: Boddington V’s British Transport Police 1999) and WE the people are bringing their attention to the unlawfulness of the Coronavirus Act 2020 as it is subordinate legislation which renders the lockdown unlawful and all the measures imposed Ultra Vires i.e. the public that were fined, assaulted or otherwise put under undue distress and alarm are eligible for redress in the form of compensation. Therefore, we should not only revoke the sovereign consent of TRUST POWERS from Government as the Government is governing for themselves and attempting to impose measures that far exceed the Parent Act (i.e. Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984) but also, revoke the Coronavirus Act 2020 as this is the source of why medical records have been amended, why doctors and nurses are diagnosing COVID-19 in patients that only have one or two of the symptoms because they know it is incentivised, the reason why we have been illegally imprisoned by a form of house arrest, why the police have overreached their authority and why everybody may have to have a mandatory vaccination.

    Hence,

    “We – the people – withdraw our sovereign consent in having our TRUST POWERS delegated to your governance due to the “beyond the powers” measures of the Coronavirus Act 2020 and consequential enforcement. Hence forth, we declare NO CONFIDENCE in Government and REVOKE that TRUST POWER until appropriate guardians are appointed by us.”

    (P.S. I have screen shot this in case it disappears again)

    1. gmangnall@hotmail.com Avatar
      gmangnall@hotmail.com

      Your post is nonsense. There are other parts of the 1984 act which cover domestic incidents. It’ still Ultravires – but not for the reason you have put

      1. Garrie Avatar
        Garrie

        Strange that Francis Hoar and Phillip Haver are using the Ultra Vires case that I sent them. So, you think it is nonsense, but others would definitely disagree.

      2. Garrie Avatar
        Garrie

        Furthermore, COVID was downgraded on the 19th of March 2020 – https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid – making all of the measures Ultra Vires, so try and refute that my man!!! ALL MUST BE PUNISHED!!!

      3. Gareth Mangnall Avatar
        Gareth Mangnall

        Hi Garrie. For some reason I cannot reply to your post…so I need to reply to my own. …. Section 45C 4d of the 1984 act allows for “special restrictions”…and it’s this which is being used to enforce quaranteen. The reason that it’s still Ultra Vires is that this specific section can only be applied by a justice of the peace…..and not by a minister.

  7. Gareth Mangnall Avatar

    Your analysis seems to be flawed. The initial lockdown prevented people leaving their houses without good reason. That powers ministers are granted are limited to those in 45b (international travel) and 45c (domestic) and 45c grants a minister to stop children going to school, prevent gatherings, and dealing with the deceased. The “special requirement” is all that remains. A justice of the peace can apply that special requirement and it could be argued that a minister cannot – but I would say that a minister CAN apply a special requirement to “p”. But what is “p”???? P is a person suspected of being contaminated and you cannot suspect an entire population. That is simply not reasonable in the same way that it’s not reasonable to arrest everyone for a burglary. I am not P as I have no symptoms so a minister (or a justice of the peace) cannot apply those special requirements.

  8. Elvis Green Avatar
    Elvis Green

    Hi Jeff,

    I stand under UK common law: I do not accept and do not agree to acts and or statutory law. Therefore this is not applicable to me. If you believe I am subject to UK acts and statutory law, please provide the evidence.

  9. Horseman Avatar
    Horseman

    The Lockdown is Unlawful as per our Constitution, therefore no argument to be had

  10. MarkJ Avatar
    MarkJ

    You have to have reasonable suspicion that p is infectious to restricts p’s movements. Locking down the entire population knowing that 95% are likely not infectious is not catered for under the health act.

    You cannot restrict the movement of healthy people, because you don’t want them potentially adding to infection rates. Quarantine is of the infectious away from the healthy, not the other way around.

    1. Gareth Mangnall Avatar
      Gareth Mangnall

      My point entirely Mark. We’ve had “Je Suis Charlie”… We now need “I am not P”

    2. wayne Avatar
      wayne

      Yes exactly! the 84 act has no power to coral healthy person(s),, it is also accepted and well settled that the Flu virus, Influenza is considerably more of a threat to life and a precedent has been clearly set in this regard.

  11. wayne Avatar
    wayne

    I cringe when I hear “according to the constitution” and what constitution is that prey tell?? what is sighted under the “84 act” falls considerably short of national or regional lockdown powers. Common law has an opposing view which can neither be revoked or circumvented by statutory provision . The nearest we have to a constitution is The Great Charter “Magna Carta” and given this was written into perpetuity and expressly prevents any acts, deeds or intrusions on individual and collective freedoms then all that comes later that states to the contrary is void and unenforceable and no amount of foul words can make it otherwise.

  12. thomas brady Avatar

    common law is sufficient to deal with lockdown

  13. World of Piano Avatar

    Such complex legal arguments, yet the reality is very sime. The UK, like most of the rest of the world, is now a dictatorship. Dictators woulf prefer ti be able to claim legitimacy for theiractions, but in the end they do not care much about the legality of their actions, because they have the power

  14. Rod Avatar
    Rod

    I think these lockdowns have caused far more harm than good. Whilst I have no legal training, the damage caused by driving many of the population into a state of hysteria and has already been linked to some people, mainly youngsters taking their own lives constitutes a crime by the State. The person’s responsible for conceiving these crimes should be held accountable.

    1. Tom Avatar
      Tom

      If this is lawful, then it is bad law and needs to be repealed, along with all the other bad laws that have been created over the last 40 years to give government ever more power, to reduce the oversight of government by parliament, to neuter the press, and to stifle any dissent. The whole idea of enacting new laws by statute or ministerial decree is awful, and so long as it is possible in the UK the country can in no way regard itself as a free country. That Britain is not as bad as North Kora or China is beside the point. It is heading at speed in the wrong direction and has been for many years.

  15. Paul. Avatar
    Paul.

    We need to address the law and political issues which have allowed the Lockdowns to happen and to allow any new criminal offenses created during the process to be applied to politicians and their advisors retrospectively.

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