Kyle Murray: Putting Parliament in Its Place: The Pro-Brexit, Democratic Case for a Second Brexit Referendum

I am a Brexiteer. I am also a democrat (indeed for me the two are very much connected). In this post, I argue that despite mainstream protests to the contrary, democratic principle points to a strong case for a second Brexit referendum. The argument also gives some food for thought regarding the democratic credentials of the UK constitution, and its prizing of Parliamentary sovereignty.

Most Brexiteers strongly disagree with the idea of a second referendum. The case for a second referendum is often seen as a “Remainer’s” cause. This piece argues that these stances are misguided: a consistent and rigorous application of democratic principle alone leads to a compelling case for a second referendum. This need not be a Remain case – in fact, making that central to the argument fails to take democratic principle sufficiently seriously.

To make this case, I will first elaborate a conception of democratic legitimacy. This provides the positive case for a second referendum: it is the ideal expression of political equality and respect for the decision-making capacity of individuals. I will then consider the popular “democratic” argument against a second referendum, showing it to be contradictory, or at the least, to lead to democratically dubious results. As well as making the case for a second referendum, this argument has wider implications for UK democracy, which will be drawn out along the way.

The Democratic Case for a Referendum

On the account presented here, the key to democratic legitimacy is political equality: democracy treats each individual, their views, beliefs and value judgements, equally in the process of collective decision-making. Majority decision-making in particular does this by according each participant maximum decisional weight compatible with giving the same to others. Waldron praises this as treating each morally autonomous individual with “respect”.

A referendum, operating on a simple majority, reflects this respect in a direct and immediate way: participants vote on the outcome itself, and their votes are given maximal weight. On this basis, “going to the people” in a referendum – including on the future of Brexit – would be the ultimate expression of democratic value: the people themselves, and everyone equally, are given maximal power to determine the decisions under which they live.

The debate since the original Brexit referendum has revealed a number of very important choices about how we Brexit. Deciding between these involves a number of value-laden judgements and balancing exercises: May’s Deal vs No Deal; both of these options (and possibly others) vs Remain. These are important decisions on which people disagree and which, on democratic principle, individuals themselves should have an equal say.

That this is a question of balance shows why each of the above options must be on the ballot paper – individuals must be given maximum power to weigh up and decide upon the options before our country. Taking No Deal off the table, for example, only gives part of the equation and removes the ability of people to set their own relative priorities. Taking Remain off the ballot paper does the same. This is why a referendum purely on how we Brexit, but not, in addition, whether, would be unsatisfactorily incomplete. It might carry a fleeting appeal for the hardcore Brexiteer, but in terms of its democratic credentials, such a referendum would fall short.

While giving individuals a maximal say on the various options available strengthens the democratic case for a second referendum, I have carefully avoided referring to any alleged “change in conditions” since 2016, or the “need” to avoid a No Deal. Nor have I argued that we need a referendum to break the current parliamentary deadlock, or in order to make the case for Remain. These are popular arguments among those who do call for a second referendum, but they are not necessary to make the case.

They are also instrumental concerns, rather than democratic ones. The implication is that, were it not for these factors, the case for a second referendum would fall short. This fails to take core democratic principle sufficiently seriously: democratic participation is not something that needs to be earned or granted only where specific circumstances require it – it is, as Waldron often puts it, the “right of rights”.

Democratically Undemocratic? The Democratic Objection to a Second Referendum

In light of the democratic credentials of referendums, it is peculiar that the apparent mainstream position is that a further Brexit vote would be anti-democratic. In addition to prominent Brexiteers, this has long been the Government line, with Theresa May often reminding us that ‘we had the people’s vote’, and ‘the people voted to leave’.

In short, the argument is that we must “deliver” on the “will of the people” expressed in the 2016 referendum. Anything else would be undemocratic. As one commentator put it, a ‘second referendum would erode the very basis of democracy by suggesting that rule by the majority is an insufficient condition for democratic legitimacy’.

The premise of this argument – that the 2016 referendum result must be delivered – treats the referendum as a legitimacy-giving device. Indeed, it is apparently the ultimate form of political legitimacy, giving the 2016 result a sacrosanct status as something that categorically must be delivered by MPs.

On the grounds above, this premise is well placed. However, while the objection is right to attribute strong democratic legitimacy to the result of a direct majority vote, it falls into an immediate tension in limiting this to the 2016 referendum alone.

The problem is that if the referendum process does give the 2016 result supreme democratic legitimacy, why does it not do the same for any further referendum? The qualities, and therefore democratic value, of the process remain unchanged – it is still a majoritarian process giving maximum decisional weight to individuals directly over collective decisions. Yet, a second referendum is given a toxic status and becomes the antithesis of democracy.

Unless this question can be satisfactorily answered – from democratic principle itself – the case that a further referendum would be undemocratic appears straightforwardly self-defeating. It would treat the majoritarian referendum process both as a legitimacy-giving and legitimacy-robbing device.

The obvious difference, it might be replied, is that we have already had a referendum. Perhaps this affects the democratic legitimacy of a second. However, treating this as making the difference leads to some democratically dubious results.

Endowing only the first referendum with democratic force leads squarely into the problem of entrenchment: the “will of the people” at one point in time – 2016 – is held to bind the people at a future point in time. Effectively, the current “will of the people” is indefinitely sacrificed to the past on the altar of “democracy”.

This irony would not be lost on classical democratic theorists: the problem of inter-temporal entrenchment – or the “dead hand of the past” – can be traced back to Jefferson and Paine. Perhaps not enough time has passed for this to count as “inter-generational” entrenchment (or for the hands to literally be “dead”). Indeed, it is difficult precisely to draw the line showing when a new “generation” supposedly begins. But regardless, the point stands that the people at one point in time are bound by the past. This is a further reason why a referendum without Remain as an option would be unsatisfactory on democratic principle.

Thus, on the “democratic” objection to a further referendum, from 2016 onwards individuals are in effect rendered powerless on all matters Brexit. This is far from democratic, on the conception above, and indeed on the conception assumed by those who prize the “will of the people”.

Putting Parliament in Its Place

The undemocratic picture gets even worse once a side effect of denying a second referendum is factored in. While citizens are disempowered, the Government and Parliament are left in control. The power to approve (or not) the final Brexit deal is – following some intervention – left to MPs. We are where we are because they have repeatedly rejected that deal.

MPs have also to date rejected the idea of a further referendum. First, in the series of indicative votes, then in making clear that even the promise to offer a referendum on the deal – to confirm the actual views of their constituents – was not going to be enough to get it through.

The result is that those who argue against a further referendum on the deal, and, yes, on Brexit itself, are arguing to disempower the people on a number of important, inter-related questions, such as those stated above: the balance between the benefits and drawbacks of the Withdrawal Agreement as against the benefits and drawbacks of No Deal; the benefits and drawbacks of each of the above as against Remain.

These are important, value-laden judgments, on which many hold views. The irony is that those who reject a further referendum on the basis that we must respect the “will of the people” are in fact disempowering those people on these crucially important questions. They are all left to MPs.

It might be replied that Parliament is democratic – indeed, “but we’re a parliamentary democracy” has become something of a soundbite. However, while we do have a long history of Parliamentary democracy, this says nothing of its democratic credentials vis-à-vis referendums.

Put bluntly, in democratic terms there is no competition. Not only is a direct majoritarian vote the ideal reflection of respect for the decision-making capacity of individuals, it throws into sharp relief some problematic elements of representation.

Despite its reputation as pleasingly “democratic” – thereby providing the normative underpinning for the doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty – representation has a prima facie elitist character. This is due to the inequality in decisional influence at its heart. Taken back to basics, representation involves giving greater control – greater decisional weight – to a small group of people, while leaving the rest with, at best, only indirect influence.

This not only underlines the point about the democratic credentials of a second referendum, it leads to a wider point about UK democracy. We have a system where MPs have the sovereign authority to decide the questions which face our society, where direct democracy – giving individuals this power – is seen very much as a special occasion (and to some not a happy one) grantable only on the whim of Parliament.

We have a system where the news of the day is whether Parliament will let a Government force the country down a No Deal route, while repeatedly refusing to allow individuals themselves to take this decision. In such a system, democracy and its underlying values of political equality and respect for the decision-making capacities of individuals is far from achieved. Referendums, and particularly a direct power for citizens to initiate them (as in Switzerland, for example), are a way of tempering this imperfection inherent in representative democracy.

Conclusion

I have put forward a principled democratic case for a second referendum: it would give individuals maximal decision-making power on the future of Brexit, and the value-judgements implicated. “Democratic” arguments against such a vote, while common, are misguided, and arguably give rise to democratically dubious results.

This case turns up some food for thought regarding the state of UK democracy more generally, highlighting the disempowerment and elitism at the heart of its lingering attachment to a pure form of Parliamentary democracy, in which direct decision-making is seen as an occasional pathology.

Brexit was seen by many as a chance to reinvigorate our democracy. Indeed, the principal reason I supported Brexit in the first referendum – and still do – is that it was the more democratic option; a chance to enhance the future self-government of the UK, and to move power closer to its individual citizens. The argument in this blog has tried to take this sentiment seriously. Parliament has, with a little help from the courts, staked its claim in the process. But for a democrat it is not only the Government which needs putting in its place – it is Parliament too. The Brexit process itself seems a good place to start.

Many thanks to Robert Craig, Gavin Phillipson and Alison Young for, as ever, thorough and helpful comments on previous drafts.

Kyle Murray is a Teaching Fellow in Public Law and Human Rights and PhD Candidate at Durham Law School, Durham University.

(Suggested citation: K. Murray, ‘Putting Parliament in Its Place: The Pro-Brexit, Democratic Case for a Second Brexit Referendum’, U.K. Const. L. Blog (26th Jul. 2019) (available at https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/))

Comments

22 responses to “Kyle Murray: Putting Parliament in Its Place: The Pro-Brexit, Democratic Case for a Second Brexit Referendum”

  1. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    I can’t reconcile the idea that you consider yourself a democrat and a Brexit supporter while advocating another referendum while action on the first referendum is STILL outstanding.

    The country can’t move on until the first decision Parliament passed to the people in 2016 is implemented.

    1. Kyle Murray Avatar
      Kyle Murray

      Hi Roger,

      Thanks for the comment. I think the response misses out a key part of the argument, and in doing so runs straight into the issue of what it would mean to “implement” the first referendum. That issue needs resolving – Brexit needs to be defined (implement what, exactly?) We now have clear options before us, and part of my argument is that it is far from ideal from a democratic point of view to leave this question – with the balancing exercise between these various options I set out – to government or Parliament alone.

      More positively put: it seems to me to be empowering to individuals as democratic citizens to allow them to make these choices themselves, now, rather than be bound by a vague, hazy choice from 3 years ago, where all the important detail is decided by someone else, while they constantly deny individuals a say. For my part, I can’t reconcile how that could be seen as ideally “democratic” (I wrote in the post how I was conceiving of “democratic legitimacy” – maybe that’s where our difference lies?).

      1. Roger Avatar
        Roger

        There is a problem with another referendum of any kind – that Remainers use the opportunity as a means of delay. The original timescale of 2 years was longer than should have been necessary to simply withdraw, but then extended 2/3 times, leading some to claim the 2016 vote too long ago, despite the timescale and possible extension(s) being within the contemplation of all concerned before the vote.

        I would find it hard to argue against a referendum to decide only the means of leaving, but I feel we should avoid any more referendums after the division of the last one. It would be anti-democratic however if a further vote did anything but decide the method of leaving, so revoking Article 50 or Remaining in any way would have to be excluded.

        And as there is only one possible method of leaving, another referendum would be pointless anyway – recalling Parliament has (rightly) rejected May’s proposed deal, which wasn’t really leaving at all.

        So, to sum up, Kyle, I’m sorry but another referendum at present is a non-starter.p, it’s simply not justifiable.

      2. georgiouleon91 Avatar
        georgiouleon91

        Sorry, Kyle, but the argument still doesn’t make sense for a number of reasons.

        Why does Brexit need to be defined? That isn’t what the referendum was strictly about; it was about whether or not our membership of the EU should continue. We knew during the referendum that the only way of leaving the EU was through the process in Article 50, which states clearly that there is a two-year period after which the departing member state leaves with or without a deal. Indeed, some would say that this does define what Brexit looks like.

        Even if I am wrong on that, there is no argument for a second referendum that includes ‘Remain’ on the ballot. The only major party offering that at the last General Election performed came nowhere close to winning, so it has no democratic (popular) approval, and the question of whether we should leave or remain has already been had and settled. If how we leave should be put to a referendum, then the two options should be the Withdrawal Agreement and no deal. This would be not a second referendum but a true “referendum on the terms of departure” (as the Lib Dems under Tim Farron used to phrase it). Including “Remain” would therefore risk overturning the implementation of the 2016 referendum result (which asked a separate, distinct, and more basic question) and cannot be democratic.

        It would be fully democratic to rejoin the EU after Brexit if a party pledging to do so wins a General Election on that ticket. In fact, I have said all along that if I were a Remainer, “leave and rejoin” rather than “cancel Brexit” would’ve been my strategy all along, both practically and as a commitment to democracy. We must leave because we have voted to leave. That is what is meant by “implement the result”. If we need to vote on what sort of Brexit we want, that’s fine — but “Remain” is not “a sort of Brexit”.

  2. Danny Avatar
    Danny

    Once a referendum is held, its result must be implemented otherwise democracy is undermined. Once a referendum result is implemented, there may be a legitimate argument to be had about whether there should be second referendum, not before. That legitimate argument would also be bound to cover timing: whether the first referendum was presented as being “once in a generation” and what is the appropriate period for the public to make an assessment of the new situation and its impact on their daily lives, national democracy and so forth.

    Furthermore any analysis of a pre-Brexit second referendum needs to take into account recent statements by Party leaders Jo Swinson and Caroline Lucas. They have already announced that they would not accept the result of a second referendum if (as is rather likely) the country once again voted Leave. This undermines the case for a second referendum rather fatally. Presumably Swinson and Lucas would then press for a third referendum, in order “to be democratic”. One wonders too when they would like the fourth referendum take place..

    Here is an excellent analysis by Professor Peter Ramsay putting the arguments against a second refendum:

  3. Janusz Ostrowski Avatar
    Janusz Ostrowski

    A second referendum IS anti-democratic before the decision of the first referendum has been implemented. Indeed a second referendum before the cycle of the first one is complete simply devalues ALL referenda including, of course, the second one. It is no more than running to stand still.

  4. John Hartigan Avatar
    John Hartigan

    This argument is fundamentally flawed. There is no mention of the role of mandates in the operation of UK democracy. Both 1975 and 2016 only took place because implicitly the electorate consented to them taking place from successful general elections with these referendums as specific pledges. No such mandate exists for a third referendum. In the scenario where the option previously rejected (Remain) is to be included, such a mandate is even more important. Without it, 17.4m Leave voters will have their votes deleted and told to vote again without their consent. It is simply unjust to Leave voters. If there’s a mandate, however, Leave voters have no right to complain.

  5. Grumpole Avatar
    Grumpole

    All previous referendums have been honoured so let precedence stand and honour this one first, if after a period of five years or more it requires further thinking then fine. Having a second before realising the outcome of the first serves only to cause public unrest whenever a referendum is held, therefore having constant unrest and political shenanigans behind closed doors, where’s the democracy in that. That set a dangerous precedent and a recipe for civil unrest.

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  7. Jim South Avatar
    Jim South

    If a second referendum were to be held, there is a risk that the referendum question and applicable voting system could be manipulated in order to split the leave vote, thus ensuring that the remain vote prevails. Presumably there would be three voting choices: leave with a deal; leave without a deal; remain in the EU. If preferential voting is not allowed, the remain option would be certain to prevail. Such a referendum would in truth be a device for defeating the will of the people.

    1. Chris Avatar
      Chris

      I disagree;
      Q1 do you choose to leave or remain in the UK?
      Q2 if leave is the majority decision, no-deal or deal

      1. Chris Avatar
        Chris

        Sorry was meant to say stay or leave the EU!

      2. Kyle Murray Avatar
        Kyle Murray

        I also disagree with the original response. The “it would split the Leave vote” concern is a common one on the Brexiteer side, but I’ve never really found it convincing (as a Brexiteer). If there were a referendum which included three options: May’s Deal; No Deal; Remain, I think describing the “Leave vote” as split misses the point. May’s Deal vs No deal are *not* on the same side – they are distinct options. As I tried to say in the blog, choosing between these options is a balancing exercise. There may be many reasons to support May’s Deal over a no-deal, or Remain over a No-Deal, or No-Deal over May’s deal perhaps (and any other combination actually), so to treat No Deal and May’s Deal as in the same camp, begs the question, I think. If No Deal (for example) can’t win out of all of the options, then it’s not the majority view and should not be taken. If May’s Deal can, then it should. If Remain can, then it should. That’s the valuable majoritarian process.

        I also think that perhaps the “but how would we deal with more than 2 options” issue has been overcomplicated: all of the democratic benefits of a majority decision would be achieved by having all 3 options (maybe more? But definitely those 3 at least) on the ballot paper. It is *extremely* unlikely (and among 30m+ voters I’d say practically impossible) for there to be a tie. So that’s not an issue. And reducing the process to multiple rounds of whittling down the options does introduce issues of cycling etc. But more importantly, it just removes the possiblity of the individual to conduct the full balancing exercise of all options against all others for themselves.

      3. Roger Avatar
        Roger

        We’ve had the referendum on leave/remain. Remain was rejected. Anyone who thinks that’s an option is living in the past.

        It’s now about how we leave, but we’re moving on from that now too as there’s only been one deal proposed, May’s, which was also rejected (because it was a stitch-up).

        The only option left is to leave on no-deal unless all the politicians start behaving like adults and come up with a deal that can be agreed. It doesn’t look as if there is one.

        So there is nothing for a referendum to decide.

        That just leaves the date, currently decided as 31/10/19. Is there any reason to delay, what would a delay achieve? And how long would be needed? The answers appear to be “no”, “nothing” and “zero”.

        So people trying to delay have no cause, so appear to simply be obstructionist ultra-Remainers.

      4. John Hartigan Avatar

        As a Leaver, I’d prefer a deal, but quite willing for there to be No Deal. To most leavers, these are leave options. I would be jolly miffed if Remain won because neither of these Leave options got more votes than a single Remain option. It is splitting the Leave vote and leavers will not accept it.

      5. Kyle Murray Avatar
        Kyle Murray

        Hi John,

        Thanks for the reply. I disagree with the “splitting the Leave vote” concern – I’ve tried to explain why I think that’s the wrong way of looking at this above (comment 13).

        I think running “Deal”/”No Deal” together as Leave options, which it is then wrong to “split” is problematic: “May’s Deal” and “No Deal” are very different options. I think a Leaver (and I am one) is perfectly entitled to prefer Remain to a No Deal, or May’s Deal to Remain or Remain to both May’s Deal and No Deal options, and any other combination, because this is a balancing exercise. Running the options together in the way this criticism does prevents us acting on that balancing exercise. Holding a referendum in this way is not a re-run of the original: it has clear and very distinct options.

      6. John Hartigan Avatar

        I am most grateful for your reply. If I surmise correctly, your preferences would be 1. Deal, 2. Remain, 3. No Deal. Fair enough. Mine would be 1. Deal, 2. No Deal – there is no 3. For Remain voters it is almost inconceivable that it would be anything other than 1. Remain with no 2. or 3. Imagine the undeniable injustice if Remain won on 34% whilst Deal and No Deal receive 33% each. It is time to be fair to Leave voters. I left an earlier comment about the importance of mandates which ought to be debated. A new referendum including Remain automatically deletes Leave voters’ 2016 victory. Without a mandate to do so, it is like having your GCSEs taken away by those who didn’t pass only to be told you can sit the exams again.

  8. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    So another argument is democratic representation.
    The swing vote for the first ref is 635k. Since then the voting population has changed by over 2M voters. Since it has been such a long time (and such a small majority) and the voting population has changed 3x more than the swing vote – then a referendum should take place?

  9. Piers Cadell Avatar
    Piers Cadell

    Chris the idea of having another vote due to time lapse is very dangerous. It means that simply by parliament prolonging the outcome then they can overrule the result of the referendum. Also it is an insult to those who voted at the time. The peoples votes remain sound unless a) the EU significantly reforms and it is genuinely believed that a significant reason for leaving has been removed, or b) the circumstances of the UK have significantly changed such that the strategy of leaving is no longer relevant. In the case of b) this would be the ridiculous circumstance of England leaving the UK 🙂

    1. Roger Avatar
      Roger

      England leaving the UK …. now there’s an idea!

  10. Kyle Murray Avatar
    Kyle Murray

    Roger (apologies, couldn’t seem to reply directly to your last point – No.14, Sept 12):

    Your point that No Deal remains the only option and so a referendum would be pointless and illegitimate I think misses a key point of the blog – that it was *Parliament* that rejected May’s Deal. I would argue that any deal (or no deal) should be accepted or rejected by individuals themselves, and that this needs a referendum to be ideally democratically legitimate. A consequence of this is that I would not accept that the deal has been “taken off the table” unless and until it is rejected (or not) by the people in a referendum. Anything else is less than ideal in a democratic sense. That’s really the nub of my case.

    In addition, again, like I put in the blog (and in some replies to others above I think), because this is a balancing exercise (“how much better/worse *is* No Deal than Remain and both as against May’s Deal?” etc) then all options must be on the ballot paper. Not having that curtails the decision-making process and limits the individual’s ability to decide for themselves thoroughly.

    (I’ll just take this moment to thank everyone so far for the comments – I never thought this would be an easy case to make, and it’s refreshing that people are disagreeing *politely*, even *apologetically*!)

    1. Roger Avatar
      Roger

      Thanks, Kyle, for taking the trouble to explain with such care.

      I’m still left feeling surprised at the idea of including Remaining, already rejected.

      Alongside options for Leaving it would make the ballot choices unbalanced, when the progressive decision now to be made is on how to Leave.

      Thanks again, much appreciated.

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