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		<title>Comment on Liz Fisher: Gov.Uk? by dmossesq</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/#comment-8890</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 11:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When links are broken, a bit of history is lost. This vandalism is always happening on the web. We know that. The web is inimical to scholarship in that way.

The advent of GOV.UK was exceptionally vandalistic. The Government Digital Service (GDS), whose baby it is, left behind a trail of destruction. Or rather, they didn&#039;t. They eradicated it.

They did so under the terms of reference of a project called &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/category/single-government-domain/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the single government domain&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.

They are prone now to &lt;a href=&quot;http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/2013/05/01/govuk-in-pictures/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;congratulating themselves&lt;/a&gt; on completing the transfer of all central government departmental websites to the single government domain, GOV.UK, and several non-departmental sites. Their congratulations are premature. hmrc.gov.uk, for example, lives on, thank goodness. A rare case of GDS&#039;s discretion being &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmossesq.com/2013/03/gds-hmrc-and-idap-where-did-it-all-go.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the better part of valour&lt;/a&gt;.

There was internal dissent to the policy-centric GOV.UK approach identified by Liz Fisher. Jeni Tennison argued that destroying departmental identity involved losing something valuable. Judging by the comments on her &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/167#comment-11678&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thoughtful blog post&lt;/a&gt;, her objections were &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmossesq.com/2013/02/a-whitehall-death-foretold-soul-control.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;slapped down&lt;/a&gt;, rather than refuted, and she left GDS.

Who grants the licence for GDS&#039;s vandalism?

The answer may interest Constitutional lawyers. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmossesq.com/2012/02/martha-lane-fox-one-of-unwritten-bits.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Martha Lane Fox&lt;/a&gt;.

Now a peer of the realm, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmossesq.com/2012/10/martha-lane-fox-httpwwwgovukmachiavelli.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lady Lane Fox of Soho&lt;/a&gt;, it is she who first called for GOV.UK in a letter dated &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/60993/Martha_20Lane_20Fox_s_20letter_20to_20Francis_20Maude_2014th_20Oct_202010.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;14 October 2010&lt;/a&gt; where she wrote:

&lt;i&gt;A new central commissioning team should take responsibility for the overall user experience on the government web estate, and should commission content from departmental experts. This content should then be published to a single Government website with a consistently excellent user experience.&lt;/i&gt;

The &quot;new central commissioning team&quot; is GDS. And the departments of state are to be reduced, in Lady Lane Fox&#039;s view, to waiting to be commissioned by GDS to publish their policy.

She didn&#039;t stop there. GDS should be able to countermand the law as well as the expertise of policy-makers wherever &quot;user needs&quot; are adversely affected as judged by GDS:

&lt;i&gt;[GDS] SWAT teams ... should be given a remit to support and challenge departments and agencies ... We must give these SWAT teams the necessary support to challenge any policy and legal barriers which stop services being designed around user needs.&lt;/i&gt;

We all used to get emails from the individual departments bringing their press releases to our attention. Now those emails all come from GDS, GOVUK@public.govdelivery.com.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmossesq.com/2013/02/personality-cult-at-gds.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unprecedented power&lt;/a&gt; is being centralised in GDS, whose qualifications – they are a team of website developers – are questionable. It&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmossesq.com/2013/01/gds-and-new-world.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new world&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When links are broken, a bit of history is lost. This vandalism is always happening on the web. We know that. The web is inimical to scholarship in that way.</p>
<p>The advent of GOV.UK was exceptionally vandalistic. The Government Digital Service (GDS), whose baby it is, left behind a trail of destruction. Or rather, they didn&#8217;t. They eradicated it.</p>
<p>They did so under the terms of reference of a project called &#8220;<a href="http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/category/single-government-domain/" rel="nofollow">the single government domain</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>They are prone now to <a href="http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/2013/05/01/govuk-in-pictures/" rel="nofollow">congratulating themselves</a> on completing the transfer of all central government departmental websites to the single government domain, GOV.UK, and several non-departmental sites. Their congratulations are premature. hmrc.gov.uk, for example, lives on, thank goodness. A rare case of GDS&#8217;s discretion being <a href="http://www.dmossesq.com/2013/03/gds-hmrc-and-idap-where-did-it-all-go.html" rel="nofollow">the better part of valour</a>.</p>
<p>There was internal dissent to the policy-centric GOV.UK approach identified by Liz Fisher. Jeni Tennison argued that destroying departmental identity involved losing something valuable. Judging by the comments on her <a href="http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/167#comment-11678" rel="nofollow">thoughtful blog post</a>, her objections were <a href="http://www.dmossesq.com/2013/02/a-whitehall-death-foretold-soul-control.html" rel="nofollow">slapped down</a>, rather than refuted, and she left GDS.</p>
<p>Who grants the licence for GDS&#8217;s vandalism?</p>
<p>The answer may interest Constitutional lawyers. <a href="http://www.dmossesq.com/2012/02/martha-lane-fox-one-of-unwritten-bits.html" rel="nofollow">Martha Lane Fox</a>.</p>
<p>Now a peer of the realm, <a href="http://www.dmossesq.com/2012/10/martha-lane-fox-httpwwwgovukmachiavelli.html" rel="nofollow">Lady Lane Fox of Soho</a>, it is she who first called for GOV.UK in a letter dated <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/60993/Martha_20Lane_20Fox_s_20letter_20to_20Francis_20Maude_2014th_20Oct_202010.pdf" rel="nofollow">14 October 2010</a> where she wrote:</p>
<p><i>A new central commissioning team should take responsibility for the overall user experience on the government web estate, and should commission content from departmental experts. This content should then be published to a single Government website with a consistently excellent user experience.</i></p>
<p>The &#8220;new central commissioning team&#8221; is GDS. And the departments of state are to be reduced, in Lady Lane Fox&#8217;s view, to waiting to be commissioned by GDS to publish their policy.</p>
<p>She didn&#8217;t stop there. GDS should be able to countermand the law as well as the expertise of policy-makers wherever &#8220;user needs&#8221; are adversely affected as judged by GDS:</p>
<p><i>[GDS] SWAT teams &#8230; should be given a remit to support and challenge departments and agencies &#8230; We must give these SWAT teams the necessary support to challenge any policy and legal barriers which stop services being designed around user needs.</i></p>
<p>We all used to get emails from the individual departments bringing their press releases to our attention. Now those emails all come from GDS, <a href="mailto:GOVUK@public.govdelivery.com">GOVUK@public.govdelivery.com</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dmossesq.com/2013/02/personality-cult-at-gds.html" rel="nofollow">Unprecedented power</a> is being centralised in GDS, whose qualifications – they are a team of website developers – are questionable. It&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.dmossesq.com/2013/01/gds-and-new-world.html" rel="nofollow">new world</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christopher McCrudden:  Equality and the Good Friday Agreement: Fifteen Years On by Cultivating identity, Depoliticising culture</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/03/29/christopher-mccrudden-equality-and-the-good-friday-agreement-fifteen-years-on/#comment-8889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cultivating identity, Depoliticising culture]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 10:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] [4] McCrudden, Christopher, “Equality and the Good Friday Agreement: Fifteen Years On” (29/03/2013) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liz Fisher: Gov.Uk? by Francesca McGrath</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/#comment-8888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francesca McGrath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 08:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that the website was praised because it makes it easy for people to &quot;fill in forms&quot;. The new website is aimed at the general public and no real effort appears to have been made to cater for &#039;professional&#039; users of government information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the website was praised because it makes it easy for people to &#8220;fill in forms&#8221;. The new website is aimed at the general public and no real effort appears to have been made to cater for &#8216;professional&#8217; users of government information.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liz Fisher: Gov.Uk? by David Pocklington</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/#comment-8884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Pocklington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 07:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The “curse of the URL” is problematic wherever a non-updated medium is used, and in the Annex to the second edition of The Law of Waste Management, I advised readers that “since the URL addresses are frequently subject to change, particularly those of government departments, web addresses have not been included only limited reference has been made to these”. However, book publishers need further persuasion, as citation of sources is an essential academic discipline, and as you state, many government publications are only available on line.  

Writing a “hard copy” column in journal Environmental Law and Management presents more problems that blogging as the latter uses a significant number of hyperlinks, they can be updated.  A potential problem, however,  is in using early reports, such as uncorrected Parliamentary proceedings or the daily Vatican Information Service reports, URLs can change overnight as the information is finalized.  

To date, Law and Religion UK has not suggested any citation, but this post has now prompted Frank Cranmer and I to introduce the practice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “curse of the URL” is problematic wherever a non-updated medium is used, and in the Annex to the second edition of The Law of Waste Management, I advised readers that “since the URL addresses are frequently subject to change, particularly those of government departments, web addresses have not been included only limited reference has been made to these”. However, book publishers need further persuasion, as citation of sources is an essential academic discipline, and as you state, many government publications are only available on line.  </p>
<p>Writing a “hard copy” column in journal Environmental Law and Management presents more problems that blogging as the latter uses a significant number of hyperlinks, they can be updated.  A potential problem, however,  is in using early reports, such as uncorrected Parliamentary proceedings or the daily Vatican Information Service reports, URLs can change overnight as the information is finalized.  </p>
<p>To date, Law and Religion UK has not suggested any citation, but this post has now prompted Frank Cranmer and I to introduce the practice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tarunabh Khaitan: Caste as Race—A Welcome First Step by John D</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/10/tarunabh-khaitan-caste-as-race-a-welcome-first-step/#comment-8873</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 22:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am pleased that fellow humanists in both houses were behind this measure, designed to end caste discrimination in the UK.  
Of course, it is no easy task to overcome centuries - if not millennia - of this form of discrimination.  Even though - according to the article above - caste discrimination was outlawed in India in 1850, we all know it is still practiced in various forms in India today, still.
The practice of caste discrimination is not solely restricted to the Indian sub-continent: it is also practiced in various forms in parts of Africa too.
As a humanist, I believe this sort of irrational and unfair discrimination is plain wrong.  Accident of birth and parentage is no basis on which to determine anyone&#039;s rights.  We are all a part of the human species and, as such, we all deserve equal treatment - whoever and wherever we are from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pleased that fellow humanists in both houses were behind this measure, designed to end caste discrimination in the UK.<br />
Of course, it is no easy task to overcome centuries &#8211; if not millennia &#8211; of this form of discrimination.  Even though &#8211; according to the article above &#8211; caste discrimination was outlawed in India in 1850, we all know it is still practiced in various forms in India today, still.<br />
The practice of caste discrimination is not solely restricted to the Indian sub-continent: it is also practiced in various forms in parts of Africa too.<br />
As a humanist, I believe this sort of irrational and unfair discrimination is plain wrong.  Accident of birth and parentage is no basis on which to determine anyone&#8217;s rights.  We are all a part of the human species and, as such, we all deserve equal treatment &#8211; whoever and wherever we are from.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liz Fisher: Gov.Uk? by Ed Balls Ed Balls Ed Balls: Official, Spad, or Both? The Joys of Research and Government Transparency &#124; Constitution Unit Blog</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/#comment-8870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Balls Ed Balls Ed Balls: Official, Spad, or Both? The Joys of Research and Government Transparency &#124; Constitution Unit Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/" rel="nofollow">http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/</a>. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liz Fisher: Gov.Uk? by Dominic</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/#comment-8868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dominic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 14:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Entirely agree, at least on the face of it there is a significant reduction in content.  The style is also frustrating and patronising (stupid people need large letters) and replicates the advice of Tony Blair&#039;s voice trainers (stupid people need slow speech and short words).  A convenient method of printing would also be useful, although that error may be on my side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entirely agree, at least on the face of it there is a significant reduction in content.  The style is also frustrating and patronising (stupid people need large letters) and replicates the advice of Tony Blair&#8217;s voice trainers (stupid people need slow speech and short words).  A convenient method of printing would also be useful, although that error may be on my side.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liz Fisher: Gov.Uk? by Law &#38; Religion UK (@FCranmer)</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/#comment-8861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Law &#38; Religion UK (@FCranmer)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 06:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who logs on to various bits of government almost every day, I do not find the new site an improvement. Sure, it looks more &quot;corporate&quot;: but so what? Overall, it&#039;s simply less useful.

And I don&#039;t think that your reaction is &quot;... akin to those people who get annoyed when the supermarket is rearranged and they can’t find where the eggs are anymore&quot; because that&#039;s not an exact parallel. If you don&#039;t like the layout at Sainsbury&#039;s you can go to Waitrose - but there isn&#039;t an alternative, differently-arranged Government website to go to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who logs on to various bits of government almost every day, I do not find the new site an improvement. Sure, it looks more &#8220;corporate&#8221;: but so what? Overall, it&#8217;s simply less useful.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think that your reaction is &#8220;&#8230; akin to those people who get annoyed when the supermarket is rearranged and they can’t find where the eggs are anymore&#8221; because that&#8217;s not an exact parallel. If you don&#8217;t like the layout at Sainsbury&#8217;s you can go to Waitrose &#8211; but there isn&#8217;t an alternative, differently-arranged Government website to go to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liz Fisher: Gov.Uk? by Paul Twyman</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/#comment-8856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Twyman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 20:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your (highly critical) assessment.  GOV.UK is a disgrace - made worse by the fact that  the officials running it do not respond to  complaints and are, no doubt, hiding information such as customer satisfaction data from their bosses and ministers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your (highly critical) assessment.  GOV.UK is a disgrace &#8211; made worse by the fact that  the officials running it do not respond to  complaints and are, no doubt, hiding information such as customer satisfaction data from their bosses and ministers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liz Fisher: Gov.Uk? by Aileen McHarg</title>
		<link>http://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2013/05/09/liz-fisher-gov-uk/#comment-8852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aileen McHarg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 15:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was mystified to learn that the gov.uk website had won design awards.  I have encountered all the problems you identify - broken links, difficulty in navigation, and, worst of all, much reduced content.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was mystified to learn that the gov.uk website had won design awards.  I have encountered all the problems you identify &#8211; broken links, difficulty in navigation, and, worst of all, much reduced content.</p>
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